April 19, 2008

Expelled, thoughts...

I'm reading reviews of Expelled this morning and one thought that came to me was the overwhelming negativity that the main-stream media has concerning this movie. Their minds were made up before they saw the film.

IF those who opposed it saw it, I think if they were true to scholarship and scientific thought, they would respect Ben's argument that this is basically about freedom. This movie is about the suppression of thought and how systematically the freedom to explore Intelligent Design is shut down as if it is some kind of terrible threat.

IF it is the junk science that those in the places of power and position believe it to be, then bring it to the light of day and have at it! Wouldn't that be far more effective to those who believe otherwise? But then of course, in the spirit of true academia, we certainly should be able to have a discussion about alien seeds verses Intelligent Design, and the belief that life began on the backs of crystals.

WHY the huge effort to refute something that is not a threat? That isn't good science? That is just what "unintelligent" people believe. WHY the lies such as what Eugenia Scott purports when she says there is no peer reviewed refutation of evolution?

One man asks after a review in the comments section, "Doesn’t relentlessly whining about being persecuted instead of actively trying to bring accurate and credible evidence to the table count as standing up to scrutiny?"

H - E - L - L - O! Bueller!!! For goodness sake, that's what this whole movie is about -- NOT being able to bring the accurate, credible evidence to the table for scrutiny because it is being suppressed.

SHEESH -- some people just don't get it! Must we draw you a picture?

Here are several reviews I liked, not necessarily because they were in agreement with my review of the film, but because sometimes I think they adequately represent the thought police and the Darwin mindset.

Triblogue

Christian Skepticism

Richard Dawkins

God and Science

Plugged in Online

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am looking forward to seeing this movie!

Anonymous said...

"H - E - L - L - O! Bueller!!! For goodness sake, that's what this whole movie is about -- NOT being able to bring the accurate, credible evidence to the table for scrutiny because it is being suppressed."

I haven't seen the movie so I can't comment on that. But ultimately, data must be presented. I imagine that people who can make a movie with such fine production values could also make one presenting some of the evidence for ID. Other ideas (bacteria causing stomach ulcers, the Missoula floods, etc) have been unpopular with the majority of scientists but the proponents of these unpopular ideas finally prevailed by providing research supporting them. To my knowledge, there isn't any such research for ID.

I also agree with you that almost everyone seeing this movie has already made up their minds before entering the theater. That is why it is crucial to provide evidence for an idea (not just how its proponents are treated) and to look at both sides of a quetion before reaching a conclusion.

j a higginbotham

Cheryl said...

We saw it last night and it was AWESOME! (Be sure to read my review!) :-)

AmusedMomma said...

JA -- I think it would be hard to comment with any authority or credibility on a movie one hasn't seen.

The point of the movie is that a cetain idealogy is being suppressed so data cannot be presented.

This was not a movie about ID per se, it was about the rejection of it within the academic and scientific communities. What are they so afraid of?

There is much to be heard on it, much scholarly work that has been done by people with credentials within those communities. Just because you are not aware of the work being done by those who don't toe the line, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Again, why suppress it?

I've looked at both sides of this issue. There is a severe lack of evidence in many evolutionary issues. There are suppositions, hypotheses -- but not imperical, reproducible evidence. Adhering to evolution as an idealogy requires a belief in it because the evidence is lacking, and this is no different than the communities of faith who believe in ID or creationism (two different things by the way).

I've been reading blogs and reviews and the hyperbole is at fever pitch, but I'm shocked really that there isn't a recognition of the main point which seems to have been skipped over because people have their points of view firmly in place before viewing the movie.

If ID is bad science, the quickest way to get rid of it is to have it thoroughly discussed, debated, researched and then thrown on the trash heap of other academic and scientific ideas that didn't go beyond being a hypothesis.